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Snapping Turtle and Chelydridae

Thanks for cleaning those articles up, I'll get more references for fossil chelydrids up soon Brickman1000 15:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

cool! Metanoid 16:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh,btw, I have randomly ended up with a baby snapper as well, he/she is a vicious little thing. Unfortunately, its from the Mississippi and I'm in FL...Brickman1000

Komodo dragon

I like the work you did on the Komodo dragon article.

Just one thing - I think it is premature to say the Komodo dragon has venom - this has not actually been published anywhere. I think you are referring to the article below:

Nature. 2006 Feb 2;439(7076):584-8.

Early evolution of the venom system in lizards and snakes.

Among extant reptiles only two lineages are known to have evolved venom delivery systems, the advanced snakes and helodermatid lizards (Gila Monster and Beaded Lizard). Evolution of the venom system is thought to underlie the impressive radiation of the advanced snakes (2,500 of 3,000 snake species). In contrast, the lizard venom system is thought to be restricted to just two species and to have evolved independently from the snake venom system. Here we report the presence of venom toxins in two additional lizard lineages (Monitor Lizards and Iguania) and show that all lineages possessing toxin-secreting oral glands form a clade, demonstrating a single early origin of the venom system in lizards and snakes. Construction of gland complementary-DNA libraries and phylogenetic analysis of transcripts revealed that nine toxin types are shared between lizards and snakes. Toxinological analyses of venom components from the Lace Monitor Varanus varius showed potent effects on blood pressure and clotting ability, bioactivities associated with a rapid loss of consciousness and extensive bleeding in prey. The iguanian lizard Pogona barbata retains characteristics of the ancestral venom system, namely serial, lobular non-compound venom-secreting glands on both the upper and lower jaws, whereas the advanced snakes and anguimorph lizards (including Monitor Lizards, Gila Monster and Beaded Lizard) have more derived venom systems characterized by the loss of the mandibular (lower) or maxillary (upper) glands. Demonstration that the snakes, iguanians and anguimorphs form a single clade provides overwhelming support for a single, early origin of the venom system in lizards and snakes. These results provide new insights into the evolution of the venom system in squamate reptiles and open new avenues for biomedical research and drug design using hitherto unexplored venom proteins.

Anyway, this article looks in detail at a range of lizards and demonstrates venom, but in the case of the Komodo dragon they do not conclude that the Komodo dragon has venom. Rather they speculate that it may have venom, which is what I changed the article to read. It is an interesting possibility, so it deserves to be in there, but it is not verifiable fact, just speculation at this stage. Actually the speculation is quite weak, just a line-one sentence saying that one of the author who does not have medical training saw rapid inflammation around a single Komodo dragon bite, which in their opinion could have reflected a weak venom (or equally could have reflected a DTH response to bacterial antigens in the saliva).Sad mouse 17:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

i think i responded back at the komodo dragon page, but i'm so scattered - i'll just leave another here. :) i appreciate the positive critique on the article; the info you mention was actually there before me, i just left it there. but you're right, i don't know of any solid cinfirmation of venom in monitors, anyhoo. (tho imo there's a good chance they do.) i think that section's fine as you've worded it, at least till further evidence comes in! later.... Metanoid 01:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Edits to Eagle

I reverted your order change in the genera of eagles. The order was taxonomic and denotes relateness within the group. All (most?) Tree of Life articles are arranged thusly. Just thought I'd let you know. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

i just figured it out (duh) - much appreciated! Metanoid 23:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• That's cool. BTW, as a editor with a seeming fondness for eagles feel free to drop by the Bird Wikiproject. Cheers! Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

references for the marine mammal pages

hi there! i have added much material to some of the marine mammal pages...the material is all based from the book marine mammal medicine and the thousands of studies cited in that book...i could load up those pages with references...hundreds on each page...yet i really dont have the time...so as to (citation needed) in the polar bear page regarding hibernation induction trigger...i think u could put tags like this on all the MM pages i have edited, and in fact i could place tags all over wikipedia...millions of tags that say citation needed...yet at the bottom of the page in references u will see i have cited marine mammal medicine...yet someone is obviously going to have to meticulously go back thru and place the citations next to every sentence as these pages will likely be edited in the future by people that will place tags or even just erase the info...thankyouBenjiwolf 13:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Polar Bear

And you made it even better. Cheers. Xiner (talk, email) 03:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia. If you continue to do so, it may be considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.Hi there...i dont consider it vandalism and i know u are a good faith editor...yet you continue to remove my sentences in the evolution section such as on hibernation induction trigger even after i have referenced this to "marine mammal medicine"...a comprehensive 1000+ page tome thoroughly referenced with thousands of scientific studies and written by an expert in the field...i am inclined to believe these expert marine veternarians...the last addtions i made to the evolution section i am willing to heavily defend and believe they should remain...if someone else had content removed when i restored my sentences, and that was a valuable adddition, i sincereley apologize...u can read my further response on my talk page...thank you...and thank you for maintaining the polar bear page in the best condition u see fit...Benjiwolf 10:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Whoa, I don't think that warning was justified, but anyway, Metanoid, I don't think I'm right. I'm not satisfied with the way it stands, and I'm sure you don't either. I posted a message on the article's talk page. Maybe you can come up with a better alternative. I certainly will be obsessing over it tonight. Xiner (talk, email) 01:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, text isn't the most expressive way to communicate, that's for sure. About my degrees, CS undergrad and Edu MS. Why? You? Xiner (talk, email) 15:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

It's good to have someone knowledgeable about the topic on board. Xiner (talk, email) 19:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I know what you mean. Two degrees later and I'm no more sure of where I'm going than I was at the start. Sometimes I wish I weren't interested in so many things! Xiner (talk, email) 17:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

RFC

Please comment at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/ForrestLane42. — goethean ॐ 15:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Snapping turtle

Cool, thanks! Love what you've done to it so far. Shrumster 14:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Tiger snake

Just to let you know that when changing an article like that the best way is to follow the instructions at Help:Moving a page. The reason is that copy and paste moves loose the page history. Also you should check for double redirects which need to be fixed. I've moved the page now so that the edit history is intact and fixed the double redirects. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. The Help:Moving a page instructions are really confusing. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Allegheny woodrat

Fixed and there were no double redirects. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

much appreciated - happy halloween! - Metanoid (talk, email) 23:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

American Mink

Hi, I see you recategorized American Mink from Category:Mammals of North America to Category:Fauna of Canada, Category:Fauna of Northwestern United States, Category:Fauna of Appalachia U.S., and Mink, American; Category:Mammals of the United States remains in both. This is problematic in several ways. First of all, Category:Fauna is less precise than Category:Mammals, so Fauna of Canada is too broad. Secondly, the categories overlap too much, and there is not much reason to include both subordinate (Appalachia) and superordinate (United States) categories. It is of course true that the American Mink is not endemic to all regions of North America, but in the absence of more reasonable sub-units than individual states and so on, I don't see the value of many individual categories like this. I see you've been doing the same on other animals, so I think it would be useful to clear this up. --Macrakis 14:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Colubrid stubs

No prob; sorry to burst your bubble. I'm a librarian by trade so tend to have a knack for finding stuff in the archives. Good luck with whatever category we end up with! Cheers, Her Pegship 01:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot to mention - the "numerosity" clause is in the How to propose a stub type section. It's 60+ for articles that aren't "parented" by a WikiProject, 30+ for those that do. TTFN, Her Pegship 02:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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group common names

It's so hard to figure out which ones should be used. It really depends on which of the "common names" is actually used by folks, and which are just simply derivatives from the scientific name. Do folks call cats "felids" more often than folks would say "members of Felidae"? Not to mention the terrible usage of calling all cats "felines". "Lagomorphs" is much easier than saying "rabbits and hares, et al", and is used more often then "members of the order Lagomorpha". *shrugs* - UtherSRG (talk) 16:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

yeah, "Lagomorphs" is prob better than "rabbits, hares, and pikas". but imo, Felidae should be "Cat family", with the pet called "House Cat" or "Domestic Cat" (and the equivalent for the Canidae). i myself would use "Felid" -- and it's better, i think, than "members of the Felidae". but when it comes down to it, ALL Felids are types of "Cats", just as all Phocids are "Seals". - Metanoid (talk, email) 18:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

creationists

You are right of course, and I guess I really knew that when I rose to the bait. Interesting diversion from the long-running "birds are dinosaurs" thread though Jimfbleak (talk) 12:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

jeez, needed some kinda diversion from that, mos def ;-) - Metanoid (talk, email) 12:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Reptile edits

Hi Metanoid, sorry about that! Yeah the comment should have gone on the talk page, my bad (i tend to sometimes put comments in my manuscripts and occaisonally webpages and sometimes there are comments on Wikipedia pages like this). The History of classification needs reorganising, because Sauropsida comes before Cladistics, and there should be something on Linnaeus's definition, and those of others in the 18th and 19th centuries. I'll make a brief comment on the talk page. Cheers, M Alan Kazlev (talk) 06:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

King Cobra

Re comment on User talk:Why Not A Duck -- "there's a movement away from wikilinking to entries that don't relate to the given subject matter" -- now that you mention it, I seem to recall reading of that too (don't recall where -- though WP:OVERLINK#Dates appears to cover it). And I guess I agree with it. I just didn't see a reason given in the edit summaries (and in a pile of edits, most of which were vandalism or incomplete fixes to vandalism, it just seemed "cleaner" to me to revert back to the last "good" version). My opinion is, go ahead and re-do the delinking. -- Why Not A Duck 01:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Better?

In Category:Algonquian loanwords, subdivided to toponyms, ethnonyms and personal names. Put the page as a sub-cat of Algonquian languages. Plenty more candidates at User:CJLippert/notes#To +cat. CJLippert (talk) 03:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

most definitely better! i am steeped in biology, while in linguistics i'm more an appreciative observer; but whatever the subject, i do so love to see order arise out of chaos. :) - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 03:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

meno-izhiwebizij! ("That's good" in Ojibwe language) CJLippert (talk) 03:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it's great. It's really overwhelming how many Algonquian terms are a regular part of North Americans' lives, and these categories serve well to document them in a comprehensive and logical way. My hat is off to you all. Badagnani (talk) 06:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Calling it quits for the day... at 500 in the toponym subcategory. Should this subcategory be split to something a bit smaller? CJLippert (talk) 03:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

if you think it's necessary/approprite; it's at three pages, 200/pg. is that too long, think? maybe "geographical features" and "cities & counties" or some such? something that makes a split between human settlements/jurisdictions/corporate entities, and natural features such as lakes, rivers, and mountains. (not sure where, say, National Forests might fall, tho.) - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 03:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

That might be a good idea, but I'm not sure it's necessary, as with this subcat one can see all 4, 5, 6 or whatever place names (city, county, river, lake, pond, etc.) are named after the same word. I believe there are probably several hundred more; have you all looked at the Google Books link I placed into the cat? It has hundreds of pages, and each page has at least about a half dozen Algonquian (or likely Algonquian) place names, probably at least 20 to 30 percent of which are so small (streams and lakes, primarily) we don't yet have WP articles for them. Badagnani (talk) 05:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Category space

Although there might be very good reason to do so - essays on category pages are wasted - it should be in an article somewhere! SatuSuro 12:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

My apologies - I think I noew understand and see what you are doing - and well done - I am sure there are not enough regional categories for such a subject - keep up the good work! SatuSuro 13:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

cool! ;) i wasn't sure what you meant at first, but no offense taken. see ya 'round - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 14:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thats ok - there is always need for south east asia categories to tie in the disparate but linked issues - i dont think the project is very active - and most national based projects dont seem to speak t each other - if at all :( SatuSuro 14:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I strongly suggest you talk to an admin about the issue - they could help you - if you know one - i think ones in my area are either asleep or finished for the night - I am sorry I m not one and have very mixed feelings about how to deal with malicious vandals who may also be puppets SatuSuro 14:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

cool, thanks for the advice. to tell the truth, i did fan the flames a teensie bit. been up all night and whatnot, hehe. - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 15:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Have mentioned it to an admin - but hey if you gonna get into sleep deprivation (I know of some eds who do) you gotta be very very careful with that sort of stuff - believe me - honesty might save you - but hey you can get reprimands from others not so gentle :) SatuSuro

much appreciated! - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 15:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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Illustrated reconstructions of extinct species

Thanks for your last response. Sorry if you thought my posts were rancorous, I was only giving certain people a taste of their own medicine - this approach has already taught one well-known bully a lesson. I actually find the debate tedious, but I'm not going to let a couple of self-righteous rule-wavers deprive us of a competent artist. -- Philcha (talk) 13:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

my complaints weren't with you! actually, i think we're mostly in agreement. if i used your handle instead of someone else's, i apologize. - Μετανοιδ (talk, email) 14:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

No, you didn't name names. But I was aware that I was taking no prisoners, which is not my normal style. -- Philcha (talk) 16:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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